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		<title>By: frankzhu</title>
		<link>http://www.ross-goldberg.com/unsubscribe-from-anyone-that-sent-you-stompernet-a-better-idea/comment-page-1/#comment-12363</link>
		<dc:creator>frankzhu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 01:36:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had looked everywhere for this article â€“ something that I would do exactly what it said, without all the fuss and hassle. I had already wasted hours of time and who knows how much time on other blogs, so I have to thank you for this article. Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had looked everywhere for this article â€“ something that I would do exactly what it said, without all the fuss and hassle. I had already wasted hours of time and who knows how much time on other blogs, so I have to thank you for this article. Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: California Jerry</title>
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		<dc:creator>California Jerry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2009 09:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s an interesting set of ideas from Amy in her comment on Rick&#039;s post. Amy says:

[quote] I DO believe itâ€™s a GOOD IDEA to subscribe to email newsletters for market research. I am getting lot of product ideas from those promotional emails. Here is what I have done in my email program:

1) I created a seperate Identity in my Outlook express email program. (File-&gt;identities-&gt; manage identities). I named that identity as â€˜Marketing Researchâ€™. Then setup a gmail account exclusively for this purpose.

2) I created seperate folders for PLR offers Master Resale offer, product launch announcements, etc.

3) Then Created an email filter to forward incoming emails to related folders automatically.

4) Every day I spend around 30 minutes to scan through those folders.

This is what I am doing with that information:

When I browse the PLR offers folder, I can see all the PLR products and who is started the offer and originator of the PLR package etc. If its a new offer, I immediately purchase that PLR product and promote it into my list ASAP.

When I browse new product pre-launch offers folder, I immediately read their salespage and see whether its marketable and if I found its very hot, then immediately post a work in RentACoder to create a duplicate of that software/script with few added features.

I donâ€™t post all of my techniques here.

Rick, I am a regular reader of your posts, but just cannot agree with you. Rossâ€™s advice is NOT &quot;the worst.&quot; [/quote]

ME: I&#039;m not saying I agree with it all, but it reinforces what Ross was saying about sorting and cataloging. Nothing wrong with having a large database as long as it doesn&#039;t take too much time to manage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s an interesting set of ideas from Amy in her comment on Rick&#8217;s post. Amy says:</p>
<p>[quote] I DO believe itâ€™s a GOOD IDEA to subscribe to email newsletters for market research. I am getting lot of product ideas from those promotional emails. Here is what I have done in my email program:</p>
<p>1) I created a seperate Identity in my Outlook express email program. (File-&gt;identities-&gt; manage identities). I named that identity as â€˜Marketing Researchâ€™. Then setup a gmail account exclusively for this purpose.</p>
<p>2) I created seperate folders for PLR offers Master Resale offer, product launch announcements, etc.</p>
<p>3) Then Created an email filter to forward incoming emails to related folders automatically.</p>
<p>4) Every day I spend around 30 minutes to scan through those folders.</p>
<p>This is what I am doing with that information:</p>
<p>When I browse the PLR offers folder, I can see all the PLR products and who is started the offer and originator of the PLR package etc. If its a new offer, I immediately purchase that PLR product and promote it into my list ASAP.</p>
<p>When I browse new product pre-launch offers folder, I immediately read their salespage and see whether its marketable and if I found its very hot, then immediately post a work in RentACoder to create a duplicate of that software/script with few added features.</p>
<p>I donâ€™t post all of my techniques here.</p>
<p>Rick, I am a regular reader of your posts, but just cannot agree with you. Rossâ€™s advice is NOT &#8220;the worst.&#8221; [/quote]</p>
<p>ME: I&#8217;m not saying I agree with it all, but it reinforces what Ross was saying about sorting and cataloging. Nothing wrong with having a large database as long as it doesn&#8217;t take too much time to manage.</p>
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		<title>By: California Jerry</title>
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		<dc:creator>California Jerry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2009 08:46:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very nice interchange. Great way to learn more about some of you marketing folks. I appreciate your honesty and willingness to share, Ross. I&#039;ve been unsubscribing to most email lists. I need to stay more focused on implementation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very nice interchange. Great way to learn more about some of you marketing folks. I appreciate your honesty and willingness to share, Ross. I&#8217;ve been unsubscribing to most email lists. I need to stay more focused on implementation.</p>
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		<title>By: ConnectingWAHMs &#187; Thanks to Alice Seba for pointing this out&#8230;</title>
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		<dc:creator>ConnectingWAHMs &#187; Thanks to Alice Seba for pointing this out&#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 21:38:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Alice posted a link to Rick Butts&#8217; blog which referenced a post on Ross Goldberg&#8217;s Blog about the &#8220;Worst Internet Marketing Advice Ever.&#8221; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Alice posted a link to Rick Butts&#8217; blog which referenced a post on Ross Goldberg&#8217;s Blog about the &#8220;Worst Internet Marketing Advice Ever.&#8221; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Marketing Blogs - Hollywood Tabloid Style &#187;</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marketing Blogs - Hollywood Tabloid Style &#187;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 18:31:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] One of note - came from Rick Butts and his blog post entitled Worst Internet Marketing Advice I&#8217;ve Ever Heard. This post was a video response to this post by Ross Goldberg. I got pulled into the whole thing because I commented on Ross&#8217;s post as I disagreed with what he said and Rick addressed my comment in his video. Yes, it sounds like a soap opera, I know. Don&#8217;t worry if you don&#8217;t follow, just watch Rick&#8217;s video and you&#8217;ll see what I mean. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] One of note &#8211; came from Rick Butts and his blog post entitled Worst Internet Marketing Advice I&#8217;ve Ever Heard. This post was a video response to this post by Ross Goldberg. I got pulled into the whole thing because I commented on Ross&#8217;s post as I disagreed with what he said and Rick addressed my comment in his video. Yes, it sounds like a soap opera, I know. Don&#8217;t worry if you don&#8217;t follow, just watch Rick&#8217;s video and you&#8217;ll see what I mean. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Lucky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lucky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 19:01:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Haha. Great marketing, guys.

Hope you had a nice Father&#039;s Day, Ross.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haha. Great marketing, guys.</p>
<p>Hope you had a nice Father&#8217;s Day, Ross.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Butts</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick Butts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 04:33:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This post - and the ensueing comments and experience compelled me to make a video about it for people who are not visually impaired.

And if they are - they can still listen to the audio.

I hope you appreciate the satire and humor intended.

You&#039;ll get plenty of traffic from this video - and a healthy debate is good conversation.

http://rickbutts.com/268/ross-goldberg-worst-advice/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This post &#8211; and the ensueing comments and experience compelled me to make a video about it for people who are not visually impaired.</p>
<p>And if they are &#8211; they can still listen to the audio.</p>
<p>I hope you appreciate the satire and humor intended.</p>
<p>You&#8217;ll get plenty of traffic from this video &#8211; and a healthy debate is good conversation.</p>
<p><a href="http://rickbutts.com/268/ross-goldberg-worst-advice/" rel="nofollow">http://rickbutts.com/268/ross-goldberg-worst-advice/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ross Goldberg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ross Goldberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 03:05:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your thoughts Micheal.

One thing I should make clear is that we all have thoughts about how to do business online.  Even if you aren&#039;t &quot;teaching&quot; others how to do it, you think your way is best.

It can always be beneficial to remove your blinders and try to think of something from the perspective of other people.

I have a tremendous amount of respect for Rick based upon the comments about him from mutual friends, but...  My way is not the same as his and his way is different from Stompernet&#039;s and Stompernet&#039;s methods are different from...

I could go on and on here.

They all work for specific people.  

There is no &quot;one&quot; system that will work for everyone.  

You can make videos for people, but what if one of your customers is blind?

You can write an amazing book, but what if someone is extremely dyslexic and has a huge amount of trouble reading?

Your system works for you, it also works for your customers, but never forget the refunds you get from people that claim &quot;you suck&quot;.  Your system didn&#039;t work for them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your thoughts Micheal.</p>
<p>One thing I should make clear is that we all have thoughts about how to do business online.  Even if you aren&#8217;t &#8220;teaching&#8221; others how to do it, you think your way is best.</p>
<p>It can always be beneficial to remove your blinders and try to think of something from the perspective of other people.</p>
<p>I have a tremendous amount of respect for Rick based upon the comments about him from mutual friends, but&#8230;  My way is not the same as his and his way is different from Stompernet&#8217;s and Stompernet&#8217;s methods are different from&#8230;</p>
<p>I could go on and on here.</p>
<p>They all work for specific people.  </p>
<p>There is no &#8220;one&#8221; system that will work for everyone.  </p>
<p>You can make videos for people, but what if one of your customers is blind?</p>
<p>You can write an amazing book, but what if someone is extremely dyslexic and has a huge amount of trouble reading?</p>
<p>Your system works for you, it also works for your customers, but never forget the refunds you get from people that claim &#8220;you suck&#8221;.  Your system didn&#8217;t work for them.</p>
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		<title>By: Micheal Savoie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Micheal Savoie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 02:30:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am subscribed to more marketers than I care to count, and some of them I never open, just because I know that they aren&#039;t going provide me value, but I know when a new launch is coming, because of the flurry of emails coming at the same time with the same subject lines...

No matter, the educational value of being on many successful marketers lists is very beneficial, and many of them do provide a lot of content...

But the people who throw mud at Stompernet are often the same people who secretly wish they could afford to sign up...  I know I once did, even though they did provide a lot of useful content early in the launch, but everything they offered was way out of my range and I began to resent the fact that they were offering me the &quot;key&quot; to my online treasure chest and I had no way of getting it short of selling my wife&#039;s van and renting my dog out to the neighbor...

My thinking, too has changed since I have met many of the Stompernet faculty and have done calls with one of them.  My income has increased to the point where I could afford to sign up if that was the direction I needed to send my business.

I disagree with Alice, though, on the aspect of not learning anything that you could use on a niche product from an IM marketer&#039;s newsletter...
Since tactics to makes sales work in almost every niche and can be easily reformulated for knitting supplies and golf clubs.  In fact they tend to work better!

That is my buck fifty&#039;s worth!

Micheal</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am subscribed to more marketers than I care to count, and some of them I never open, just because I know that they aren&#8217;t going provide me value, but I know when a new launch is coming, because of the flurry of emails coming at the same time with the same subject lines&#8230;</p>
<p>No matter, the educational value of being on many successful marketers lists is very beneficial, and many of them do provide a lot of content&#8230;</p>
<p>But the people who throw mud at Stompernet are often the same people who secretly wish they could afford to sign up&#8230;  I know I once did, even though they did provide a lot of useful content early in the launch, but everything they offered was way out of my range and I began to resent the fact that they were offering me the &#8220;key&#8221; to my online treasure chest and I had no way of getting it short of selling my wife&#8217;s van and renting my dog out to the neighbor&#8230;</p>
<p>My thinking, too has changed since I have met many of the Stompernet faculty and have done calls with one of them.  My income has increased to the point where I could afford to sign up if that was the direction I needed to send my business.</p>
<p>I disagree with Alice, though, on the aspect of not learning anything that you could use on a niche product from an IM marketer&#8217;s newsletter&#8230;<br />
Since tactics to makes sales work in almost every niche and can be easily reformulated for knitting supplies and golf clubs.  In fact they tend to work better!</p>
<p>That is my buck fifty&#8217;s worth!</p>
<p>Micheal</p>
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		<title>By: Ross Goldberg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ross Goldberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 02:27:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I expected to see you here Rick, but not so soon.

If you read my post, you will see that I agreed with you about following 2 - 3 specific marketers that you can trust.

I also stated fairly clearly that you should not allow every marketer to mail you every day to your main email, but to keep them at a separate email address where you can check them at your leisure to see what is going on around you.

You can suffer from paralysis of analysis or being locked in a closet, I prefer to analyze what I choose.

I do also need to say that a newbie doesn&#039;t belong subscribing to every list until they are comfortable with their level of knowledge.  Only then will they be able to see through the offer and find the marketing message.

As far as using a &quot;dofollow&quot; philosophy, this blog is not here for authority, it is here for me to voice my opinions.  My &quot;Authority&quot; blog will use the &quot;dofollow&quot; philosophy.  Not this one.

My specialty is traffic and I believe that a blog doesn&#039;t have to fit one standard.Â  I think I&#039;ll stick with things the way I like them, but thanks for your thoughts.

Thanks,
Ross</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I expected to see you here Rick, but not so soon.</p>
<p>If you read my post, you will see that I agreed with you about following 2 &#8211; 3 specific marketers that you can trust.</p>
<p>I also stated fairly clearly that you should not allow every marketer to mail you every day to your main email, but to keep them at a separate email address where you can check them at your leisure to see what is going on around you.</p>
<p>You can suffer from paralysis of analysis or being locked in a closet, I prefer to analyze what I choose.</p>
<p>I do also need to say that a newbie doesn&#8217;t belong subscribing to every list until they are comfortable with their level of knowledge.  Only then will they be able to see through the offer and find the marketing message.</p>
<p>As far as using a &#8220;dofollow&#8221; philosophy, this blog is not here for authority, it is here for me to voice my opinions.  My &#8220;Authority&#8221; blog will use the &#8220;dofollow&#8221; philosophy.  Not this one.</p>
<p>My specialty is traffic and I believe that a blog doesn&#8217;t have to fit one standard.Â  I think I&#8217;ll stick with things the way I like them, but thanks for your thoughts.</p>
<p>Thanks,<br />
Ross</p>
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